Favorite Platy

[CACAdmin]

The female platy in the bottom of the picture is one of my favorites. She is being courted as you can see by 2 males eagerly displaying for her. She is laying low after a chase awaiting the opportunity to elude them...lol. I would like to have gotten a better shot of her but at the speed they've been racing around the tank, that's proved impossible.

http://www.canadianaquariumconnection.com/jb_images/sunsetwag.jpg

[Melody]

She's a beauty, but I like those big spots on the dorsal of the male even more - very unique! Next Hifin female with a spotted dorsal is mine! :laugh:

Its a great demo of how the female Platy will take the last insemination. You haven't had Oleg's Hifins for very long at all, yet you already have a Hifin generation big enough to breed. If they were Swords, Guppies or Mollies, your females would still be spitting out low-fins only.....lol....very frustrating when one is trying to breed traits. I don't know how many times that I've lost the male long before he got a hit in on the females.:rolleyes:

[CACAdmin]

I like those big spots on the dorsal of the male even more - very unique! Next Hifin female with a spotted dorsal is mine! :laugh:

OK, you'll be #1 on the waiting list...lol... but she's gonna cost you (that's what you get for telling me how unique the spots on the dorsal are:Neener: )

[fishenthusiast]

She is beautiful! So are the males for that matter. I have never seen that colour pattern before. What's it called?

[blainep]

She is beautiful! So are the males for that matter. I have never seen that colour pattern before. What's it called?

She looks alot like a couple of my female Redwag Platys. A little lighter in color, but that may just be the picture. :SwimmingFish:

Great looking fish !

[CACAdmin]

Ahh, so you spotted the Red Wag in her. (She's the end result of a mix of a number of genes through a couple of generations (Sunset Mickey Mouse, Red Wag, Red Hifin, & spotted). All traits except the 'Mickey Mouse' are visible interestingly enough. (Am gradually eliminating the 'Mickey Mouse' pattern in the tail in preference for a wag tail).As for what the color is called... beats me... maybe we should come up with something...lol.

[Melody]

Technically she'd be a Hifin Marigold Wag. Marigold rather than Sunset because she favours Maculatus and Sunset is Variatus. Redwags were the first wags and every other wag was bred out from them (including Swordtail wags). The first Wags were X. maculatus, as were the Mickey Mouse and in this case your Hifin also came from the Maculatus. The original speckled fish had a healthy dose of X. variatus and Sunset is usually Variatus. She'd be labelled Maculatus for all intents and purposes.


I have never seen that colour pattern before. What's it called?


Its called an anal fin 57....lol. The male that I can see is showing his Variatus genes, with the base color being largely Sunset Variatus, yet the color pattern favours Maculatus. The mass of black towards the tail is their Maculatus showing through. Interestingly, black masses are all referred to as Mickey Mouse - the Mickey Mouse pattern emerged later though and the larger black markings are more 'Moon' coloring. The spotting can be either/or and they're showing two spotting patterns, one referred to as spotted and the other as dotted. They'd probably be sold as Hifin Spotted/Speckled/Freckled Variatus. They may go into a marble pattern by the looks of those big splotches.

Is everyone sleeping yet? :SLEEP:

[blainep]

Technically she'd be a Hifin Marigold Wag. Marigold rather than Sunset because she favours Maculatus and Sunset is Variatus. Redwags were the first wags and every other wag was bred out from them (including Swordtail wags). The first Wags were X. maculatus, as were the Mickey Mouse and in this case your Hifin also came from the Maculatus. The original speckled fish had a healthy dose of X. variatus and Sunset is usually Variatus. She'd be labelled Maculatus for all intents and purposes.



Its called an anal fin 57....lol. The male that I can see is showing his Variatus genes, with the base color being largely Sunset Variatus, yet the color pattern favours Maculatus. The mass of black towards the tail is their Maculatus showing through. Interestingly, black masses are all referred to as Mickey Mouse - the Mickey Mouse pattern emerged later though and the larger black markings are more 'Moon' coloring. The spotting can be either/or and they're showing two spotting patterns, one referred to as spotted and the other as dotted. They'd probably be sold as Hifin Spotted/Speckled/Freckled Variatus. They may go into a marble pattern by the looks of those big splotches.

Is everyone sleeping yet? :SLEEP:

And here I thought she was just a great looking fish :laugh: .

[Melody]

LOL That too.

[fishenthusiast]

Technically she'd be a Hifin Marigold Wag. Marigold rather than Sunset because she favours Maculatus and Sunset is Variatus. Redwags were the first wags and every other wag was bred out from them (including Swordtail wags). The first Wags were X. maculatus, as were the Mickey Mouse and in this case your Hifin also came from the Maculatus. The original speckled fish had a healthy dose of X. variatus and Sunset is usually Variatus. She'd be labelled Maculatus for all intents and purposes.



Its called an anal fin 57....lol. The male that I can see is showing his Variatus genes, with the base color being largely Sunset Variatus, yet the color pattern favours Maculatus. The mass of black towards the tail is their Maculatus showing through. Interestingly, black masses are all referred to as Mickey Mouse - the Mickey Mouse pattern emerged later though and the larger black markings are more 'Moon' coloring. The spotting can be either/or and they're showing two spotting patterns, one referred to as spotted and the other as dotted. They'd probably be sold as Hifin Spotted/Speckled/Freckled Variatus. They may go into a marble pattern by the looks of those big splotches.

Is everyone sleeping yet? :SLEEP:

I knew you would not be able to resist answering such a question. That is why I asked... ain't I sly? :cool:

[CACAdmin]

OK Melody... you're hired!... as my 'Platy Genetics Consultant'. Hmmm! not sure how much of a budget there is for that position... I think it only pays in platy fry and snails. ;)
Thanks for all that great info. Here I am breeding for what I think looks great... and you have all that knowledge to explain my results.:cool: I'm impressed... and appreciative.

[jones]

wow man, those fish are GLOWING!!!

good work...

all the best
jones

[CACAdmin]

Thanks! :biggrin: That's the reward of breeding for specific traits... at first you'll get a whole bunch of fairly ordinary looking fish and a few really special ones... and then you try to to selectively breed for those particular traits... adding new fish to the gene pool as you go & then wait for the next batch of fry. Of course, you never know with certainty what you'll get... and that just makes it all the more interesting.

[jones]

nice...

you get far enough you'll have to come up with your own name for them:laugh:

great to see fish gettin the care they deserve...
all the best
jones

[Melody]

I knew you would not be able to resist answering such a question. That is why I asked... ain't I sly? :cool:

ROFL Trying to keep me amused and out of trouble hmm?:D


you get far enough you'll have to come up with your own name for them:laugh:



OH no he won't! I just finally got all of this stuff memorized - no way am I memorizing more! lol

BUT seriously though, if its different enough its ok, but if it can fall into one of the categories, its frowned upon to rename them. That doesn't mean you can't set a different color strain and name it of course, it just has to be completely different and it has to produce predicatable results before it can be a bonified strain.

Actually, it doesn't have to be anything - some circles frown upon EVERYTHING it seems...lol...so do what's fun. I'm just obligated to say that stuff ;) .

[Melody]

OK Melody... you're hired!... as my 'Platy Genetics Consultant'. Hmmm! not sure how much of a budget there is for that position... I think it only pays in platy fry and snails. ;)
Thanks for all that great info. Here I am breeding for what I think looks great... and you have all that knowledge to explain my results.:cool: I'm impressed... and appreciative.

As much a I hate to give up impressing people...lol...I'm afraid that someone else could 'walk' in here and come up with a completely different theory/label than I did. One little detail and the whole thing is off. I'm just a babe in the genetics woods and I like practicing:D .