Fishroom v2.0

[blainep]

I've been a little busy in the evenings lately, so I haven't been spending as much time on the forum as I normally do.

The reason ? Construction of the new fishroom.

There is lots of work to do yet, but I thought I'd post a few pics of the progress so far.

First, the big tank rack.
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This rack is 16 feet long and 27 inches wide, not including the legs. The legs add 3 inches to the total length and width.
The length of wall is exactly 16 feet, 3 inches. I thought I would drywall the 2 end walls to give a more finished look. I had to cut part of the drywall back out to fit the rack in. :rolleyes:
I will cut some smaller pieces to fit between the legs of the rack to cover the framing.

And YES, the shelves are level ! (Holy cr@p this is heavy !)
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A quick shot of one of the outlets. All outlets are GFCI protected and the fishroom has its own circuit breaker.
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A look at the framing of the tank shelves.
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Instead of using ladder framing for the shelves, I used 3 - 4 inch by 6 inch beams to support the weight of the tanks.


Lots of work to do yet. Tanks to clean and reseal, plumbing, lighting, insulation, fresh water drip system etc.

When all is done, this rack should hold about 28 tanks.
There will be another rack on the opposite wall and a smaller third rack with a few tanks not on a common sump system.

If anyone feels like being slave labour, feel free to stop by !

[Melody]

I will be right there! I will be the forewoman and do the 'a little to the left... no right... a bit left..." thing! Well... maybe if I'm feeling suicidal I'll do that. :rolleyes:

I admire doers. That is such a big project I'd plan it for years and never get it done. Nice work! I like that shade of blue too.

[CACAdmin]

Hey Blaine, you're doing an awesome job. If I were in your neck-of-the-woods, I'd love to come and help but you're not exactly right next door. Instead I'll enjoy the work vicariously :wink: ... hey, no throwing stuff at me. :wideeyed: <ducks> I can't help it if you're on the other side of a few mountain ranges. Tell you what, when you're done & I happen to be passing through town, you can charge me admission to see the finished product.

What type of wood are you using? 4x6's don't come cheap but I think you're wise to go that route given the weight of tanks.I hope you're able to incorporate some of the wood from your other stands to help with the costs. BTW, what type of paint have you used on the shelving?

[blainep]

What type of wood are you using? 4x6's don't come cheap but I think you're wise to go that route given the weight of tanks.I hope you're able to incorporate some of the wood from your other stands to help with the costs. BTW, what type of paint have you used on the shelving?

The beams are 2 - 2x6s glued and screwed together, saves a little money and my back a little strain from packing lumber around.

The paint is just semi-gloss latex. I bought enough to paint the tanks as well.

I'm going to use one, maybe two, of the racks from the current fishroom in the new fishroom. This new rack should be the only big construction project.

[CACAdmin]

Good idea to use 2 2x6's. Definitely will save your back. Years ago I worked in a door manufacturing plant. We used to rough cut a skid of 2"x10"x16' unfinished oak...carrying each piece from the skid and then feeding it through the saw, tossing a piece back and forth with each run through the saw...one person feeding one person receiving and tossing back for the next cut... somehow I always ending up on the receiving end (the one doing the tossing :mad: )... believe me you work up quite a sweat doing that. Mind you these days I could do with the exercise... might help get rid of the spare tire. :laugh:

As for the paint, at least you won't have to deal with the harsh fumes of oil based paint in the basement with the fishroom already there.

[PintoHawk]

It's looking fantastic, and I am really jealous! Someday, oh sweet someday...

[thegrandpoohbah]

Looking good Blaine!

[RatMan]

Well if you want help not a problem I'll pick up my ticket at the airport correct? and you will provide meals correct? So not a problem. But nice work so far, and looks really strong.....yes just have the tickets in your name I'll get them on Thrusday after work......

[blainep]

Well if you want help not a problem I'll pick up my ticket at the airport correct? and you will provide meals correct? So not a problem. But nice work so far, and looks really strong.....yes just have the tickets in your name I'll get them on Thrusday after work......

Meals - No problem, maybe even a few wobbly pops. Airline tickets - :NoWay:, already spent all the money on this project !

[blainep]

Pulled out a few tanks today and hosed them off and resealed them.

I'm arranging them on the rack so I can drill the rack for the plumbing.

Gives a bit of a look at how it should look when it's done.

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They still need a vinegar dip to clean up the glass. I'll be painting the tanks as well.

[CACAdmin]

You've been more than a little busy Blaine... getting lots accomplished. I'm impressed. And just out of curiosity, what ratio of vinegar/water do you use to clean up the glass?

[blainep]

You've been more than a little busy Blaine... getting lots accomplished. I'm impressed. And just out of curiosity, what ratio of vinegar/water do you use to clean up the glass?

I use extremely scientific measurements - 1 tub of water and 1 jug of vinegar. :wink:

I put the tank in the mixture and leave it for about a half an hour and then give it a good scrubbing. If the is still some crud on the tank, I dip it in again.

Most hard water marks come off on the first dip, some never comes off, but it usually makes the glass look a lot cleaner.

[Melody]

What are you going to call this operation? Surely it's big enough for a name... and a website <hands Blaine my card> I work for fish! :laugh:

[blainep]

What are you going to call this operation? Surely it's big enough for a name... and a website <hands Blaine my card> I work for fish! :laugh:

I was just gonna go with 'Fishroom v2.0', but then, I'm not that creative. :rolleyes:

I had thought of a website a while back, but now I have CAC to post all my insane projects on. ::D:

[CACAdmin]

Most hard water marks come off on the first dip, some never comes off, but it usually makes the glass look a lot cleaner.
Hard water??? :confused: What is that you speak of? Never heard of such a thing here on the coast. :laugh:

[James]

You must be talking about Ice, only hard water we have.

[Melody]

I think hard water is Vodka. I'll Google it for verification.

[blainep]

Still plugging away. Couple of update pictures.

Cleaning, resealing painting tanks.
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Drilling plumbing holes.
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Thats all for tonight.

[CACAdmin]

It's a big project but you're definitely making great headway. :thumbup: Thanks for posting pics of the progress. It's great to see it all come together.

[hp10BII]

Wow, what a great looking project! Looks like there's a lot of shelve space with room to grow. Question though, looks like most of the tanks would be open tops. Would humidity be a problem or do you use a dehumidifier?

[thegrandpoohbah]

Hehe... humidity is NOT a problem in Calgary. The air is so dry here that a little extra moisture in the air is kinda nice.

[blainep]

Overall I find even with the fishroom I have now, I still need to run a humidifier in the bedroom ! :eek:

I will putting lids on the tanks though, for lids I use 2 foot by 4 foot florescent diffuser panels.

The panels are only $5-$6 each and with 20 gal. tanks, I can 3 lids out of one panel.

I buy the prism type design because it cuts easily with a good pair of scissors. The 'Cracked Ice' finish works ok as well, but it tends to splinter when you cut it.

There are also two materials used ( that I am aware of ), acrylic and styrene. I prefer the styrene panels, I find the acrylic panels tend to warp and twist over time and the styrene tends to stay flat.

[Pamelajo]

You have been really busy! Looks great so far.

[blainep]

Some more updates.

Other than the lights, I've got the first row of tanks done on the bottom shelf of the rack.

A bit of a look.
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The first two tanks of the next rack. resealed and painted.
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Continuing on ........

[thegrandpoohbah]

Dang, you work fast! Have you been calling in to work "sick"?

[blainep]

Dang, you work fast! Have you been calling in to work "sick"?

Me ! Call in sick to work ! :WhoMe:

[Melody]

Tell them you have a case of Ich... as in work is ICK!

[blainep]

It's been a couple days, so I guess it's time for an update.

The tanks on the first half of the rack.
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The pump manifold. 1 1/2 inch PVC with 1/2 inch ball valves and caps that I have drilled 3/16 inch holes in to control water delivery.
1 inch inlets at each end of the manifold, one end for the pump from the sump, the other inlet for fresh water (for water changes).
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The drains from the top tanks into the bottom tanks.
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The drains from the bottom tanks and tonights project, the drain pipe to the sump.
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The laundry sink adapter, this will connect with a piece of hose to the manifold (above) so water changes are simply a matter of turning on the water, closing the valve on the pump side of the manifold and opening the valve on the laundry tap side.
I'm not that happy with the way this adapter turned out, I'm going to rework it a little to see if I can get a better design for it. ( and clean the sink as well, that's kinda nasty)

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A look into one of the tanks
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Tonights project is to build the return pipe to the sump, tomorrow, build the sump. This weekend - lights and the overflow for the sump.

Some of the tanks didn't come as clean as I had hoped they would, I'll have to try scraping them with a razor blade.

[thegrandpoohbah]

What are you using for the lighting?

[blainep]

What are you using for the lighting?

At the moment, the plan is to put some of the cheap florescent T5 fixtures I bought at Princess Auto into boxes and mount them into the rack.

I looked at buying new T5 fixtures, but the cost is huge ! If the Princess Auto lights aren't enough, maybe I'll go with some T8 fixtures.

[PintoHawk]

Ooooh, I am SOOO jealous! It's looking REALLY fantastic! :)

[blainep]

Ooooh, I am SOOO jealous! It's looking REALLY fantastic! :)

Thanks Anna, I really want this to turn out looking good. A lot of work, but so far I really like it.

[PintoHawk]

It looks like a lot of work, but seriously, I think you are doing an awesome job. I am very impressed with alot of the projects I see in DIY sections of all types of forums, and the fishroom projects seem to be huge jobs with alot involved, all the details and plumbing and electrical blows my mind. At least, it does right now, but one of the reasons I read all the DIY fishroom projects is to learn how other people are accomplishing such feats so that someday I can attempt it myself. I can't wait until I have the space and the finances to get so involved in the hobby.

Your room looks like a store. I showed the images to my fiance and he asked what you are breeding, he figures you must be very serious about breeding something specific to do all you have done. :)

[blainep]

I'm a wild type livebearer fan. Limias, Mollies, Goodieds, Swordtails and a few others.

The big inspiration is have a good looking fishroom and cut back on the maintenance work involved.

[Jeradatar]

So far it all looks awesome. I think you are well on your way to attaining your wish.

Juanita

[PintoHawk]

Livebearers, huh? I know where I am heading next time I am in Calgary... Blaine's house. And I am bringing fish bags and cash, LOL :)

[grumpystiltskin]

While ive been lugging furniture, and sorting through dead fish ,you have been working on an awesome project Blaine. You are doing really nice work, I love what you have done. It gives me an idea what i can do in my baesment, I like the idea of a separate circuit breaker for the fish room. At the moment i have one power point for all my tanks lol, got to get that fixed. Keep up the great work Blaine, very inspiring :yes:

[blainep]

It's water testing day !

The fresh water fill from the laundry tub tap worked like a charm.

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Once the tanks were full it was pump testing time. The pump and valves worked perfectly.

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The valves to fill the tanks are set right at the water level, as the water flows into the tank, it carries air in with it. Acts a bit like a bubbler.

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A look inside one the tanks.

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The only problem I have seen so far is that some of the tanks are a little bit shorter than others, I cut the drain pipes all to the same length, so the water height in a couple of tanks is a little higher than I'm comfortable with.
Nothing a cordless drill and drill bit can't fix.

So far, no leaks !!!

[Pamelajo]

:thumbup:

[CACAdmin]

Definitely a big :thumbup:! If I ever win the lottery or something so I can have a place where I can have a fishroom, I'm going to hire you Blaine. If it were me, there'd probably be all kinds of leaks :wideeyed: . It must feel good to finally be able to do a live test of the water system.

[blainep]

Well, I plugged away at it pretty much all day and now it's done ! :red_dance:

The first half of the rack anyway ..........

Lids, lights, sump drain done today.

A few pictures without the camera flash.

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With the flash.

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The sump.

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My electrician is coming this weekend to hook up the breaker.

Other than that, it's time to start moving some fish in and fill the sump with bio media.

Once I get the 20 gallon tanks in the old fishroom emptied into the new rack, it will be time to get the second half done.

[blainep]

I forget to add.

Power consumption for this setup so far.

40 watts on the pump.
64 watts of lights.

104 watts total power, no heaters in there yet.

Not bad for 14 tanks.

[CACAdmin]

Awesome job!:Applaud:
Now time to celebrate. :Celebrate: OK, maybe hold off the big celebration until the fish are in but you still have a small one. Have a drink on me. :cheers:

[Melody]

Nice work! You're going to be busy maintaining them. I think I would have a student come in for a half day on the weekend to do the bulk of it. It would be worth it and still allow me to enjoy what I'm doing.:yes:

[thegrandpoohbah]

Very nicely done! But Blaine, you made a mistake. You were supposed to build that in my fishroom!

[blainep]

Very nicely done! But Blaine, you made a mistake. You were supposed to build that in my fishroom!

You can give a guy a fish tank .......... (something about leading a horse to water) :rolleyes:

Did my first water change on the new rack this morn, that was a tough one ! Had to turn a couple of valves....... then I had to turn on the water taps on the laundry tub..... next was whole waiting a few minutes for the new water to flow into the rack ....... finally I had to turn off the water and turn the valves back again, phew, I'm beat !!::D:

[Jeradatar]

Sounds like its time for a beer! I don't know how you managed to do all that turning of taps! The fishroom looks great you sure are lucky to have it and its great that the power consumption is so low.

Juanita

[CACAdmin]

Did my first water change on the new rack this morn, that was a tough one ! Had to turn a couple of valves....... then I had to turn on the water taps on the laundry tub..... next was whole waiting a few minutes for the new water to flow into the rack ....... finally I had to turn off the water and turn the valves back again, phew, I'm beat !!::D:
Sure, rub it in, why don't ya?! :twitcy: Making me more envious every day. However, I will say you deserve the ease of it after all the hard work you've put into the project.

[blainep]

Sure, rub it in, why don't ya?! :twitcy: Making me more envious every day. However, I will say you deserve the ease of it after all the hard work you've put into the project.

Yes Jay, I am going to rub it in a little ! ::D:

But that was the whole point of this project (not the rubbing it in), the ease of maintenance. I love my fish, but packing bucket after bucket after bucket ........

I hit one of the local fish stores today and picked up a big piece of bulk filter blanket and picked up an internal UV sterilizer and a fresh ammonia monitor.

I cut up the filter blanket into smaller pieces and stuffed it into the sump, washed up a 5 gallon pail of bio balls and tossed them in as well.

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Tried out the UV sterilizer. I had to tip it a little, it's very tall.
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The heater is temporary, this rack is going to be a room temp rack.

[CACAdmin]

The UVS looks like the submersible ones I have. Is it an AA one? They are long but I put mine horizontally in the tanks.

BTW, I didn't know there was such a thing as a bulk filter blanket. Looks like it will do a good job.

As much as I'd love to have tank racks and an automated system, I think I'd probably get an eviction notice if I tried to set up something like that in my apartment.::(:

[blainep]

The UV is an AA unit, the cost on it was at least realistic compared to anything else I looked at.

The bulk filter blanket is meant for pond use, but it will work just fine in there. That with the bio balls should provide lots of mechanical and bio filtration.

[Melody]

Methinks you better sell me some fish quick, or you won't be able to afford to fill those tanks!

I only have your best interests at heart. :Angel:

[blainep]

Methinks you better sell me some fish quick, or you won't be able to afford to fill those tanks!

I only have your best interests at heart. :Angel:

You have my best interests at heart ....:laugh: You're as big of an addict as I am !

[Melody]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone :Neener: .

[blainep]

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone :Neener: .

Hush now, the last thing a person with a wall of fish tanks wants is someone throwing stones !

Moved the Endlers and Nezzies into their new home tonight, they were in need of a water change, so I figured fish were alot lighter than a few more buckets of water.

[CACAdmin]

Ahh, so the Nezzies and Endlers now have the elite status of having been the very first fish in the new Fishroom.

[thegrandpoohbah]

How are you handling the cycle on the new rack? Filter media from the old rack?

[Slipstream]

Im jealous.. I should find a way to build something like that for my fish room here in my apartment :P One that isnt fastened to the wall.. haha. Maybe make a stepped one with a larger base than a top.

[blainep]

How are you handling the cycle on the new rack? Filter media from the old rack?

Yup, I've got a sump full of well cycled bio balls and several Aquaclear sponges I can rinse into the sump.

Should help to cycle it fairly smoothly.

[blainep]

Im jealous.. I should find a way to build something like that for my fish room here in my apartment :P One that isnt fastened to the wall.. haha. Maybe make a stepped one with a larger base than a top.

You can do pretty good DIY tank racks on the cheap and portable as well, the home page for Delta Guppies has a picture of a DIY rack on the home page. Cinder blocks and 2x4 shelves.

http://www.deltaguppies.com/

The way I went is definitely not cheap or portable !

[Melody]

Hush now, the last thing a person with a wall of fish tanks wants is someone throwing stones !

Moved the Endlers and Nezzies into their new home tonight, they were in need of a water change, so I figured fish were alot lighter than a few more buckets of water.

People with glass tanks should not throw stones - got it.

Nezzies are another fish that doesn't like my water. Easy fish they tell me, dead in record time in my tanks. I think I have some babies though so maybe they'll do better. I actually saw Nezzies on a Florida farm stock list last week - methinks those wild-types are catching on with the mainstream.

[CACAdmin]

Well how do the Nezzies and Edlers like their new home? And have you moved any other fish into their new digs yet?

[blainep]

People with glass tanks should not throw stones - got it.

Nezzies are another fish that doesn't like my water. Easy fish they tell me, dead in record time in my tanks. I think I have some babies though so maybe they'll do better. I actually saw Nezzies on a Florida farm stock list last week - methinks those wild-types are catching on with the mainstream.

I found keeping mine alive has been a challenge, thankfully, my original fish left me with quite a few fry to work with. It looks like (fingers crossed) that I have a pregnant female again.

Lets hope they're catching on, the more they become available, the better as far as I am concerned.

[Melody]

Absolutely! And when the demand increases at the commercial level, the larger collection wholesalers go after new species. The great thing about Livebearers is the wholesalers don't have to keep collecting them because they're easy to breed, which makes raping Nature unnecessary.

I wonder if it's basic environmental change that the Nezzies don't like? PH or something. Bill has had them thriving in his tanks and a pond, and he doesn't spoil his fish.

[blainep]

Well how do the Nezzies and Edlers like their new home? And have you moved any other fish into their new digs yet?

The Endlers were happy in the new joint within a few minutes of arriving. Nezzies to a couple days to settle in a bit.
I've moved all the cooler water fish in now and re-arranged tanks in the old fishroom so I can now start on the second half of this rack.

Now that this rack has been running for a week or so, it looks like I got things right on it. Very few changes/improvements that I can see happening. I'm really happy with it.

One thing I have to do is try to get an estimate of how much water I'm changing on a water change, I can't keep count of buckets when there are no buckets. :rolleyes:

I'm going to try seeing how long it takes to fill a 5gal pail from the tap and try to get a reasonable estimate from there. It's hard to tell if I'm changing 25 or 125 gallons at a water change right now.

With the exception of a couple of tanks, I'm going to leave the tanks bare bottom. I have a bunch of plastic plants floating right now to give the fish some cover and I've ordered a big box of weighted plastic plants to act as cover on the lower parts of the tanks.
Cleanup so far has been a breeze, a quick vac of the tanks and a top up from the taps takes just a few minutes !

Once the second half of the rack is complete, I'm going to install the fresh water drip system. I have a plan in mind and picked up a drip irrigation kit from Canadian Tire for a good price. It comes with everything in one box, so I won't have to make ten trips to get everything I need.

The next step will be to move the black stand (http://www.canadianaquariumconnection.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1910) with the 50 gal tanks in to the wall on end of the room, then to make some modifications to my first tank rack (http://www.canadianaquariumconnection.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46) and assemble it on the wall opposite to this new rack.

A lot of work for sure, but once this first rack is done, I can take it easy and get things done at a more relaxed pace. I'll be taking lots of pictures to post as I go so everyone will be able to see how it comes together.

[Melody]

This has been very interesting to follow, thanks for taking the time to document it all. :smile:

[CACAdmin]

Glad to hear things are going well and that you're pleased with the result. It's often difficult tackle a project this big without encountering something you hadn't foreseen. Obviously, it has been worth it to spend the time planning you did. My problem would be my eagerness to get it going and then hit multiple bumps in the road.

I look forward to your posts as you continue with the project. Don't forget to include pics of fish in their new digs.

[blainep]

Eagerness has been the biggest problem I've run into as well, most of my racks are unpainted etc. because I wanted the water flowing.

Keeping up with making sure things are done step by step has been a big benefit to this project. It feels like it's taking forever, but the end results look great.

So far the biggest boo boo has been measuring out the rack, then drywalling, then cutting the drywall back out so the rack would fit ! :laugh:

[CACAdmin]

So far the biggest boo boo has been measuring out the rack, then drywalling, then cutting the drywall back out so the rack would fit ! :laugh:
That would definitely be something I would have done, I'm sure.

[blainep]

I took some time tonight to get the first row of tanks lined up on the second half of the new tank rack.

A couple of pictures to show how things are progressing.

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A bit of peek, I'm hoping to get a lot more done this weekend.

[CACAdmin]

I'm amazed at how much you've accomplished in so short a time. Great job!

[McLovin]

I've been following this thread like a great novel. My only complaint is; not enough photos and updates! LOL!

::D: :notworthy:

[blainep]

Got a big push going this weekend to get things done.

The water is now flowing on the second half of the rack. Still a few details to look after, but I'm so close to done, I can almost taste it.

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There's a bit of a pre-fish look.
Still have LOTS of cleanup to do, some more painting, etc.
The freshwater drip still has to go in as well, but it's together, the water is in and the pump is running.

Now I need to get a little :SLEEP:.

[CACAdmin]

Wow!:swoon: Awesome job! It sure must be a good feeling to have it up and running. ::D: Now you can take your time with the finishing touches... soon you can sit back and just enjoy your fish and your handywork.

[thegrandpoohbah]

Just saw this in person tonight and it puts some fish stores to shame.

[Namor]

Ditto to that GP...

i mean...:eek:

WOW:swoon:

That my friend, is intense. Nice Job!

[McLovin]

Are you sure this is just a hobby? :laugh:

I love your fish room, phenomenal job!

[James]

That looks great, now if only I had that much room lol.

[Melody]

Looks like we're going to have a phenominal source for fresh fish soon :smile: . I figure the order with Charles will come in before the end of July with a border run or two after that, so we'll fill 'em right up for you. I'd like to get the boxes from Charles around third week of July as I have a week off then and I won't have an ALA mag deadline looming, but we'll see what transpires.

Are you going to stock mostly Livebearers? You know what he has from the site but he may have more that isn't up there - it's usually not up to date. Normally I ask by species or species group so he doesn't labour over a complete list, so if there's anything specific, PM away. ::D: We should have his fish coming straight into Alberta soon but then you'll have store markup. I'd like to try his Rainbows, since they're bred in-house. With the degree in fishy-stuff he'd spot the usual Rainbow diseases so I'm certain they'd be free of those. They can pick it up in stores so direct is the ticket.:yes:

[Jeradatar]

Very Cool! That is clearly a serious case of MTS. Lucky you GrandPoohBaj to be invited to view the project. I'm sure pictures don't do it justice. Plus you can't see all the fish!

Nita

[blainep]

Just saw this in person tonight and it puts some fish stores to shame.

Thanks GP, looks a little better tonight, got some clean up done. Did some more plumbing work as well.

Did a big water change on the whole rack. Nice to be able to just turn on the water and let it flow thru for a water change !

I'll start moving fish in tomorrow, some of them are in need of a water change, so they might as well move in to the new digs.

Melody, I'll be in on that order from Charles for sure !

[CACAdmin]

Did a big water change on the whole rack. Nice to be able to just turn on the water and let it flow thru for a water change !
You realize how green with envy that makes the rest of us. However, with that many tanks, you'd probably have to give up the day job otherwise to keep up with waterchanges.

[blainep]

You realize how green with envy that makes the rest of us. However, with that many tanks, you'd probably have to give up the day job otherwise to keep up with waterchanges.

Some days, that doesn't sound like a bad idea !

[CACAdmin]

Easy enough... just buy a winning lottery ticket.:wink:

[blainep]

Had my electrician in tonight to do the final hook ups for me.

The fish are now on their own GFCI protected circuit. :red_dance: I probably could have saved some money by using a GFCI breaker, but instead, I used individual sockets.
That way, if there ever is a short, it will just take out the one receptacle rather than the entire rack.

So, I spent the evening getting all the wires tied up and the timers set up for the lights.

It's all coming together !:Biggrin:

[CACAdmin]

I think you were wise to go that route... a good investment.
Glad to hear it's all coming together... wow timers for lights and everything... spoiled fishies. My fish have no set schedule... they live by my waking schedule... and as I work shift work have none :twitcy: .

[Melody]

I am thoroughly impressed!

I have to get this ALA issue done (much of which features Charles and his farm since a tour was part of the Convention) and then I'll be bugging him. I'll let you and Jay know what's what as & when.

[blainep]

It's been a while, so I guess it's time for an update.

Visible progress has slowed down a bit, I've been busy looking after the little stuff, plumbing adjustments etc.

I moved the 2 50 gallon tanks out and set them up on the opposite wall from the new tank racks.

Here's a look.

One side of the room.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/1.JPG

The other side.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/2.JPG

The top tank.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/3.JPG

Bottom tank.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/4.JPG

A few of the residents checking out the new digs.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/5.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/6.JPG

Funny, with the flash, you can still see the writing on the insulation I painted. Normally you can't see it.
I had my nephew do some painting for me, looks like he got a little over eager with the paint, I see a few runs. Doesn't matter, it's a fishroom, not a banquet hall.

Lots to do yet, but I'll keep the updates coming.

[CACAdmin]

Looking good! :yes: I notice the 2 50's are next to the fridge... is that to keep fishfood in? or cold ones for you?:wink:

[McLovin]

Wow, your fish room just gets better and better! What an amazing project, you've done an outstanding job!

[blainep]

Looking good! :yes: I notice the 2 50's are next to the fridge... is that to keep fishfood in? or cold ones for you?:wink:

Yes, and yes . :wink:

That fridge and the small deep freeze beside it I would like to move, but, I've got to get a few more things cleaned up first.
I'm going to find a spot for a couple 20 gallon tanks to use as QT tanks and then I think I will call the fishroom done (for now).

[CACAdmin]

Quite the accomplishment. Congrats on a job-well-done. :cheers: (& I definitely think the fridge should stay. :wink: )

[blainep]

:SomebodyShootMe::POed:Wouldn't ya know it, I cracked a friggin tank today :mad:

I'm never going to find a tank that will match the others, these tanks were homemade.

I was installing some drain covers today, they were a little tall to fit on the bottom row, so I was pulling on the drain tube a little and .........

Now to figure out how to fix this.

[blainep]

I drained and pulled out the cracked tank and put a new panel on the bottom from another tank.

It'll need a couple days to cure, but I should be back at full capacity soon.

[CACAdmin]

Just when you think you're just about done something like that happens. Glad to hear you figured out a way to fix it, though.

[blainep]

Well, my tank repair appears to be working.

Last on the to do list for this rack is to install the freshwater drip system. I've got all the bits for it now.

Next on the project list is a small rack for QT tanks and I'm going to try my hand at moss farming, so I'll need to set up some small tanks for that.

[Melody]

Nice work indeed!

[blainep]

Bit of an update, I made an order of mosses and Fissidens.
So here is the future moss farm and possible home to a few new acquisitions. (Finalizing a purchase from Karmafarm Aquatics.)

I moved the deep freeze out and in its place, 4 20 gal tanks.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/DSCN3164.JPG

Nothing to exciting yet, but it'll get there.

[CACAdmin]

Best of luck with the moss farm. May I ask where the deep freeze went and what your wife had to say about its disappearance?

[blainep]

Best of luck with the moss farm. May I ask where the deep freeze went and what your wife had to say about its disappearance?

The deep freeze didn't go far, I had originally planned to put these tanks along the wall at the end of the big tank rack, but being an older house, the basement floor isn't very level there. So I moved the deep freeze there and put these tanks where the deep freeze was.

[CACAdmin]

So it was just a matter of shuffling things around. It's always good to have a freezer handy for fish food anyways.

[blainep]

It's been a while, so time for an update.
After some procrastination and a few emails to drip irrigation manufacturers to ensure their piping and tubing were safe to use, I now have an experimental fresh water drip system set up.
I have to pick up a chlorine test kit today to ensure it is being disbursed from the water before it enters the main water system, but 24 hours in and it seems to work well.

I also have to set up a little test to see how much water is dripped in as well, so I can get an idea and adjust the amount of water being exchanged.

So far though, it is working well. I'll get some pictures together so everyone can see how it is set up.

[CACAdmin]

Cool! It's great to see that it's all coming together for you. Lots of work, but well worth it in the end. :yes:

I look forward to seeing the pics to see how it all works.

[Melody]

I'll be interested in hearing how it goes. It isn't feasible for me, but it's one of those things I'd like to do when it is. :yes:

[blainep]

A few pictures of the (experimental) fresh water drip.

In spring I picked up an 'All in one' drip irrigation system from Canadian Tire.

It had everything need to setup a basic drip irrigation system - pressure regulator, filter screen, hoses, drippers etc.

I also needed a 'T' so I could install a valve for the water, same as you would normally hook up a garden hose to outside.
I found a compression fit 'T' that fit the supply hoses for the laundry sink. I think it is actually a water supply fitting for a dishwasher.

First picture shows the 'T', valve, pressure regulator and filter screen.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3306.JPG

For now, I have just tied the tubing to the drain line for the sumps.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3308.JPG

This one shows the end of the water supply hose and the drip line attached to it.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3309.JPG


This is a little Rubbermaid tub, about 3 gallons, water from the dripper fills the tub. Inside the tub is an airstone and heater.
I drilled a hole at the top of tub and siliconed a bulkhead fitting and drain pipe.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3310.JPG

Inside the tub - the dripper is at the bottom, then a small piece of glass with an air stone and 50 watt heater suction cupped to the glass.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3311.JPG

The drain.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3312.JPG

The drain pipe going into the sump.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3313.JPG

Almost caught that drip on camera !
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3314.JPG

The tub with the air pump running.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3315.JPG

A look with the lid on.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/fish2/drip/mini-DSCN3316.JPG


It's a long way from pretty yet, before I make it pretty, I want to be sure the bubbler is working to disperse any chlorine in the water.
To be safe, right now I'm adding a little dechlorinator every day. My tests yesterday showed the drippers at about 3 gallons per hour, so I have turned them down nearly to minimum right now.

The heater is just to warm the water a little before it is dumped into the sump.
The plan is to get the drippers set so they drip about 1/2 gallon per hour. That should give about 84 gallons per week of fresh water to the rack, about 25 - 30% water change.

[thegrandpoohbah]

How are you controlling the water level? I don't see any sort of shut off hooked into a float valve. What prevents the system from overflowing?

[blainep]

How are you controlling the water level? I don't see any sort of shut off hooked into a float valve. What prevents the system from overflowing?

Nope, no float valve. The little Rubbermade tubs drain into the sumps. The sumps are drilled with bulkheads that are attached to the house drain.

Once the sumps are full, the excess water flows into the drain.

[blainep]

After a week with the freshwater drip running, I think I'm satisfied the idea will work.

This weekend I'll make it all look pretty and take a few more pictures.

I'd like to build one more small tank rack in the fishroom as well. I'll have to do some measuring in the next few days and see if I can come up with an idea to make it work.

I still have about 12 drilled 15 gallon tanks, I don't think I can use them all. Not much space left, but with a little work, I might be able to put some of them to use.

[Katalyst]

Maaaannnn it looks awesome! I'm dying to do a drip system myself, so keep the info coming. :notworthy:

[CACAdmin]

Great job. Thanks for the continuing detailed info of your fishroom setup. Glad to hear the drip system seems to be working out for you. The details and pics are definitely helpful for anyone wanting to set one up. :yes:

[blainep]

I think I have finally finalized the plans for the fishroom.

The plan now is to move the refrigerator to another area of the basement, remove the stand with the 4 20 gallon tanks and build one more tank rack. If the plan works out, I should have a small rack with 12 15 gallon tanks in that spot.
With a little thought and planning, I should be able to hook the sump direct to the house drain like the other racks, so I can plumb in a freshwater drip and fill system.

Against the end wall I'm going to put a stand with 2 3 foot long tanks.

And that should be the fishroom.

Yes, I'll take lots of pictures ......

[CACAdmin]

Sounds like another winter project (not quite as big as last years but big enough to keep you out of trouble that's for sure). :wink:

Good luck with it all. Am looking forward to pics.

[blainep]

Well it's the first day of the new year, so it seemed like a good day to do some work in the fishroom.

I got to work on the final tank rack for the fishroom. I'm re using a rack from the old fishroom.

You may remember .....

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/tad/15/1.jpg


That stand then evolved to this
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/new50/mini-DSCN2427.JPG

Tonight
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-DSCN3450.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-DSCN3451.JPG

Long way to go before it's done yet, but I wanted to do a test fit to make sure the rack would fit well into the fishroom.

As I make progress, I'll keep things updated.

[blainep]

I should add, this rack is replacing the 4 tank stand and refrigerator that sat beside the 2 50 gallon tanks.

So this stand is now gone and the fridge is in a new spot in the basement.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/DSCN3164.JPG

I just realized as well, once the current fishroom plan is done, I'll have 1000 gallons running ..... !!!!!:eek:

[CACAdmin]

Great way to start off the New Year, Blaine. 1,000 gallons... :swoon:. I bet you never thought you'd reach that when you first conceived the fishroom. Glad to see you could reuse that orignal stand (with modifications).

Of couse, once you get this last phase completed, we'll be eager to see what occupants you put in those tanks.

[blainep]

Of couse, once you get this last phase completed, we'll be eager to see what occupants you put in those tanks.

So will I !

The realization of thousand gallon mark had me doing doing a 'holy cr@p' as well. It's a long way from the metal rimmed 10 gallon I had years ago.

Not much visible progress to update today, I put a coat of epoxy paint on the cement floor where the rack is going to sit and took a run over to Rona to pick up a few bits and bobs for the plumbing.

Hopefully, tomorrow I will finish building the rack and get a coat of paint on it. Maybe get a few tanks cleaned up as well.

[Melody]

I can't maintain 300 gallons, I can't even fathom 1000...lol...good for you!

[Pamelajo]

1000 gallons!! Looking forward to more pics.

[CACAdmin]

1,000 gallons...that is so cool... maybe, just maybe, I can buy a winning lottery ticket today. (I love to dream.:spinny: )

[blainep]

A hard worked day, and the results.....

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-01.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-02.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-03.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-04.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/mini-05.JPG


Still a long way from water running, but a good days work.

[Pamelajo]

You have been busy. Looks good.

[CACAdmin]

You sure got a lot done (unlike me who has barely touched the 'To-Do' list. Looking good!:yes:

[blainep]

Thanks Pam and Jay. I'm at the point now where most visible progress is done.

Now it's just the plumbing and electrical to be done. The stuff you don't really see. I probably could have put more time into cleaning the tanks, but they're not bad, just a few hard water stains.

What's left - The sump, the fill and drain manifolds, GFCI outlets, freshwater fill valves and pipes, wastewater drain and a freshwater drip.

Jay, why don't you stop by tomorrow and look after that stuff for me ? ::D:

[CACAdmin]

I wouldn't know where to begin Blaine. However, if you lived somewhere warm and where I could get away from this horrid white stuff (yes, it's snowing here again :mad: ) I might actually seriously consider it.

[Pamelajo]

(yes, it's snowing here again :mad: )
:wideeyed:

[blainep]

I'm sure you'd do just fine Jay, it's not rocket science !

Scratch the fill manifold off the list.

[CACAdmin]

Good stuff! Hey, that's the fun part of posting the To-Do' list here. You can check things off as you get them done. (and if we find we're waiting too long, we'll get Melody to nag you into doing it. :wink: )

[Melody]

What did that man ever do to you that would make you wish THAT upon him? :laugh: He'll probably never come back now - I found his mod uniform at the door. Not only did he run away screaming, he apparently did so in his undies....ROFL.

[CACAdmin]

:rofl: :rofl:I suggested his own 'To-Do' list (not the one his wife writes up). I figured he might get offers of help if he posted it here... then he could simply delegate the job (as he tried to do with me... of course, that didn't work because I'm a little too far away. :wink: .

However, after this, I imagine if I ever stop by to see his fishroom, I'll be handed a To-Do list as long as my arm and kept captive without food or water until it is done. :laugh:

[blainep]

As long as you don't mind fish food and tank water, you'll be fine Jay !

Electrical done, sump done, tank drains installed, lids and lights installed.

If I can find some braided PVC hose tomorrow, I'll be ready for a water test !

Then hookup the sump to the house drain and I'm done this rack. :red_dance:

Then just a matter of cleaning up the disaster of a mess.

[blainep]

Not only did he run away screaming, he apparently did so in his undies....ROFL.


NOT a pretty site ! :rofl:

[CACAdmin]

Wow... you sure get things done when you put your mind to it, don't you. As for cleaning up the mess... there's no fun in that. Isn't there someone around you could delegate that chore to? :wink: ...and no, I'm not planning on being in town in the near future. :BOLTS:

[blainep]

Got my hoses yesterday and got then put on the rack. I let things seal/cure overnight so time to water test this morning.

A quick look at the fill manifold, this was a PITA, I had some 1 inch hose hanging around, so I figured it would work as a connecting sleeve for the manifold pipes.

Wrong.

It's to hard to compress with clamps. I found that out right after I turned on the water ! On the good side, I found out the GFCI works perfectly ! As soon as the water hit the power bar for the lights, all went dark !

The cure was to take it all apart and put a layer of silicone between each piece and clamp it down and leave it to cure over night.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3463.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3464.JPG

Don't see any drips this morning. ( Runs downstairs to check again)

Filling the top row.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3466.JPG

Top row full.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3467.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3469.JPG

And filling the second row.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3470.JPG

Second row full.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3472.JPG

And filling the bottom row.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3473.JPG

Bottom row full.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3475.JPG

And begins filling the sump.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3476.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3477.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3478.JPG

Sump full (enough).
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3479.JPG

Pump running !
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/lastrack/mini-DSCN3480.JPG


I've got to do some more figuring on the sump, the floor is just not level enough, even with the styro insulation, one corner is not supported. Don't need a broken sump !

I hope to have the drain hooked up today, the freshwater drip I can work on a little later.

The rack will need to run for a couple days, then a big water change and it should be good to go.

[blainep]

Well, the new rack has been running for a week now with no problems. I've done a couple of large water changes to flush out any crap that might be in the water.

Made a few minor adjustments during the week, just tweaking. I still don't have the drain hooked up yet, it's still on the 'to do' list.

A few pictures of the (nearly) complete rack.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/01.JPG

It's a little high, the top of the top tanks are 80 inches high. That's the height of a standard interior door.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/02.JPG

Side view.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/03.JPG

The sump, still need to dig out some more filter material. Nice mess of expanding foam as well, but it worked to support the sump.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/04.JPG

A look inside a tank, recognize those shells Melody ?

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3484.JPG

A look at one of the lids, just a 2 foot by 4 foot diffuser panel with some notches cut out for piping. The tanks are just slightly wider than 4 feet, so I added a strip of eggcrate for support.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3488.JPG

Lift the lid and look in, a look at the drain pipe cover. Hard to see, but, the fill pipes end just above the water line. This allows the water to pull air into the tank.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3493.JPG

One of the tanks still had the glass for a corner drip filter in it, so I tossed in the needed bits.

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3496.JPG

Guys, just because I'm standing next to your tank doesn't mean I'm going to feed you !

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3499.JPG


This week, the plan is to get a little more cleanup done, I'd like to get a start on the last tank stand next weekend.

[Pamelajo]

Your getting a lot accomplished. Looks good.

[CACAdmin]

Nothing like having an audience of fish watching you all the time while you work... I guess they figure you're their entertainment for the weekend.:laugh:Superb job, BTW. However, I don't envy you the tank maintenance on that top tank though... quite a reach. I see you resolved the problem of the floor not being level under the sump... I never thought about using expanding foam... great idea.

I see you added some bio-balls to the corner drip filter but what are the blue things you put in there?(can't quite make them out)

[blainep]

They're just more bio balls in a cool, sexy blue, instead of the black. ::D:

[thegrandpoohbah]

Looks good!

[tigerbarb420]

I would like to request a virtual tour of the fishroom when it is finished or at least near finished! :) This is amazing.... /drool

[blainep]

I would like to request a virtual tour of the fishroom when it is finished or at least near finished! :) This is amazing.... /drool

I'll see what I can do. I was thinking of trying a short video or some kind of a 360 degree photos.

Thanks BTW, it been a lot work, but good work. I am very pleased with the results.

[blainep]

Is it finished, probably not, I have a feeling the fishroom will never be finished.

But, it's finished for now.

I cleaned up a couple tank stands I had hanging around and put 4 20 gallon tanks along the back wall. I had planned to put 2 more 50 gallon tanks there, but I found a spot they'll fit in to later, when I 'need' them.

Some more painting, a small set a cabinets for fishy stuff and a boatload of cleaning and now I can call it done.

There are a few loose ends to look after yet, but I'll get to them one day.

So a look at the finished product.

From the door.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3500.JPG

Stepping in.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3501.JPG

A look to the left.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3503.JPG

The back wall.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3504.JPG

A look to the right.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3505.JPG

A look from the other direction.
http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3506.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3507.JPG

http://tlfs.org/ntanks/newrack/mini-DSCN3508.JPG

My first attempt at a Youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrzzjCU9rmk

It's not great, but I'll try again after the water changes are done.

[Namor]

I just watched the video.

That is phenomenal.:notworthy:

[CACAdmin]

That fishroom was a lot of work but you did a fabulous job, Blaine! Something you should be very proud of. Good job on the video, too. Now, tell me, how do you keep the fishroom so neat and tidy?

[blainep]

I spent a few hours cleaning and tidying up for those pictures !

I have to admit, I spent most of the day in the fishroom today, going from tank to tank, polishing things up. :yes:

[Pamelajo]

Looks great Blaine! Loved the video, it is nice to see it live.

[tigerbarb420]

You have truly turned all of our pipe dreams into a reality! Very nice work. When was the project started?

[blainep]

You have truly turned all of our pipe dreams into a reality! Very nice work. When was the project started?


From the initial planning to now was nearly a year exactly. I started actually working at the end of April last year.

I've been plugging away at it now for so long that it feels funny not to be working on the fishroom.

[CACAdmin]

Relax Blaine... enjoy the fruits of your labor. Now you'll have more time to focus on the fish themselves.

[leafgirl115]

wow it looks amazing! Great work!!!

[blainep]

You knew it wasn't over yet !:rolleyes:

In getting ready for the Calgary Aquarium Society home tour, I've been scurrying about getting things looking pretty and adding on.

I'll get a few pictures up tomorrow, right now I need to get some zzzzz's:SLEEP:

[CACAdmin]

Nothing like a tank tour to motive you to tidy up:laugh: ... but adding on???... now you've got me curious... what do you mean you need :SLEEP:? You can't just leave us hanging until tomorrow... hey, get back here. Blaine... uh, Blaine?

So much for that, I guess I'll just have to try to be patient. :rolleyes: :laugh:

[Pamelajo]

Technically he posted it at 12.01 so it was tomorrow already!!!! So were are the pics:Waiting:!!!!!
Sleep is overrated!

[CACAdmin]

Technically he posted it at 12.01 so it was tomorrow already!!!! So were are the pics:Waiting:!!!!!

:rofl: I like the wait you think, Pam!:Applaud:

[Pamelajo]

::D::Angel:
Okay I have cooked supper,ate supper, cleaned up ran in to the city for 2 hours and still no pics!!!

[blainep]

A little impatient are we Pam ?

Some may remember my little fiasco here - http://www.canadianaquariumconnection.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6138

After some procrastination, a days work can make quite a difference.

For now, I guess I'll call this 'Chiclidville'

1111

Neolamprologus multifasciatus, now sporting 6 fry.

1112

Neolamprologus brevis 'Sunspot'

1113

Lamprologus occelatus 'Blue'

1114

Neolamprologus brevis 'Kitumba'

1115


Now just need to get the rest of the fishroom cleaned up.

[Pamelajo]

Yes I am a little impatient today!! Actually not, just trying to catch up on harassing you guys as I have not been around much. Kind of making up for lost time. ::D:
Love all your shell dwellers. Congrats on the 6 fry, hope they do well for you.

[CACAdmin]

Great to see the addition of shellies. (I have a funny feeling it's not going to stop there. Does your wife know that you have plans to extend the basement? :wink: )

And Pam, go ahead and pick on Blaine... he's tough and he can take it. :laugh:

[Pamelajo]

And Pam, go ahead and pick on Blaine... he's tough and he can take it. :laugh:


Hmmm if I am busy picking on Blaine, then I won't have time to harass you????

[CACAdmin]

Hmmm if I am busy picking on Blaine, then I won't have time to harass you????

That's the plan.:yes:

Blaine, now that you've got the shellies all organized and their digs looking pretty spiffy I must say (after the original scramble to get stuff together for them) and you've the rest of the fish room ready for guests, I'm sure you've got time to drop by and clean up my chaos, right? ...right? :laugh:

[blainep]

I'm sure you've got time to drop by and clean up my chaos, right? ...right? :laugh:

There's only about 46 more tanks that need a good cleaning, I'm sure, between the two of us, we can get it done with time to spare, right Jay .......


What time did you say you could drop by ?:wink:


Pick away Pam, I can take it, but don't forget to keep Jay on his toes !

[CACAdmin]

I'll be there as soon as the courier delivers my airline ticket... you did send one, didn't you? :wink:

[blainep]

I'll be there as soon as the courier delivers my airline ticket... you did send one, didn't you? :wink:

I'm sure it was on the 'todo' list, but I can't seem to find the list right now ...........


Anyone know a good way to get flake food unstuck from the floor ? Man that stuff gets everywhere.

[Pamelajo]

Go over it with a really wet mop, let sit for a minute or two then remop with a drier mop.

[CACAdmin]

Great tip, Pam. Blaine, I don't get it stuck to the floor as I hav carpet that I feed flake food to. :spinny:

[fishclubgirl]

I feed my carpet duckweed!! Am going to Blaine's on the home tour sunday. Can't wait to see it and will give you all my feedback.

[CACAdmin]

Pssst... Blaine... she's coming to inspect. :wideeyed: You'd better make sure you get all the usual crud we all keep put away (or at least hidden out of sight:wink: :laugh: )

[blainep]

Pssst... Blaine... she's coming to inspect. :wideeyed: You'd better make sure you get all the usual crud we all keep put away (or at least hidden out of sight:wink: :laugh: )

I have to much crud ! I'm running out of places for it ! :laugh:

[CACAdmin]

I have to much crud ! I'm running out of places for it ! :laugh:
I know exactly what you mean. :laugh: I have the same problem.

[fishclubgirl]

I missed it as I was busy with my charity event at the other end of town. Blaine has invited me over so I'll have a chance to do a more thorough inspection!!!

[CACAdmin]

Glad to hear you'll get to see it after all, fishclubgirl. Blaine, you do realize that this means you're going to have to keep the fishroom tidy until then?:wink:

[blainep]

Glad to hear you'll get to see it after all, fishclubgirl. Blaine, you do realize that this means you're going to have to keep the fishroom tidy until then?:wink:

That could be a challenge !

A couple people mentioned they'd like to come back for another look so I guess I'll have to try to keep things looking spiffy.

[fishclubgirl]

So when do I and the bf get to come over??? We both want to see your fishroom.

[blainep]

So when do I and the bf get to come over??? We both want to see your fishroom.

Like I told Jay, anytime Ann Marie, anytime.

[blainep]

If you saw my post about messing with Aquaclear filters, you might be wondering why.

The why is because I pushed the fishroom to the 1200 gallon mark this weekend.

It was something I wanted to get done before the CAS Home tour, but I did not have enough time and energy.

1140

I lowered the bottom shelf to accommodate the taller tanks and put 4 tanks on the shelf.

One 50gal one 40gal one 15gal and one 10gal. The 50 and 40 are for fry growout and thegrandpoobah might need to borrow some tank space while he moves.
The 10 is for live food and the 15 as a QT tank.

In order to tame the mess of cords and filters, I'm considering maybe putting this rack on air driven sponges like Pam is doing with her tanks, not sure yet, but maybe.

I need to pick up a couple bits for the lights and I still need to pick up an impeller for one of the filters.

I still have two 40 gallon tanks that I might build a pedestal for, but I'll wait and see on that for a while.

1200 gallons, a dream and nightmare all in one ! :wink:

[CACAdmin]

Hey that's great Blaine... you know the saying, there's always room for another tank. :wink: Gotta:TipMyHat2U: to you... you know how to do a fishroom up right!:waycool:

1200 gallons, a dream and nightmare all in one ! :wink:


I'd take the nightmare of making it all work anytime to have the dream of having that many gallons. :yes: :cheers:

[brnttoast]

awesome job
gives me lots of great ideas
my fish room will be a lil smaller scale, simply due to the size of the room :P

again, if my wife ever finds this site, i am so dead :(

i might yet have to draw a place for a cot in the fish room, cause i think when she sees it and the water bill i will be banished to it

i have alot of odd sized tanks, as well as a pile of 10's i wanna use to select and breed snails

seeing yours i might have to sell some of the larger oddballs and buy more tanks that are the same size

[brnttoast]

lemme see if i have it right
each tank has a high output that goes to a sump,used as a common filter for each rack
you trickle fill the sump?
i missed where the overflow is that drains the excess water
mind giving a round trip explanation, water in, out and around the filter
also... i hate to ask ppl about money, but... what kind of an increase was this on your water bill? if you dont mind saying

[blainep]

lemme see if i have it right
each tank has a high output that goes to a sump,used as a common filter for each rack
you trickle fill the sump?
i missed where the overflow is that drains the excess water
mind giving a round trip explanation, water in, out and around the filter
also... i hate to ask ppl about money, but... what kind of an increase was this on your water bill? if you dont mind saying


The water bill is the easy part ! I'm still on flat rate, no meter. (That will be changing though)

The racks work by having the pump in one end of the sump, the pump sends water to a manifold that fills the top tanks. All of the tanks are drilled and have bulkheads and standpipes. The top row of tanks drain thru the stand pipes to the bottom row, then the tanks on the bottom row drain into another manifold that drops the water into the sump, on the far side of the pump. water passes thru the filter media and back to the pump.

The drip system acts as a constant freshwater supply, to prevent overflow, the sumps are drilled on the back glass. Bulkheads and pipe attach to the house sewer drain so any excess water is sent down the sewer.

[Melody]

I think you should patent the whole process and do installations for people like me. ::D:

[CACAdmin]

I think you should patent the whole process and do installations for people like me. ::D:
A good retirement plan... doing something you enjoy which will brink in a little cash and it allows you to travel (... just because it's not to exotic locations is irrelevant. :twitcy: )

[Malibu]

Wow! This must look amazing in person!

(You know it's a slow day at work when you can take an hour and a bit to read a full journal like this!!)

I have a question for you, though Blaine - do you have to turn each light on individually, or did your electrician wire them all to a switch or two? I can just imagine that turning on 50-ish lights would take some time...

[blainep]

Wow! This must look amazing in person!

(You know it's a slow day at work when you can take an hour and a bit to read a full journal like this!!)

I have a question for you, though Blaine - do you have to turn each light on individually, or did your electrician wire them all to a switch or two? I can just imagine that turning on 50-ish lights would take some time...

The lights are all on timers. Turning them on individually would be a bit more of an undertaking than I would want every morning. :dull:

[Pamelajo]

Looks good Blaine.

[fish]

Nice project I like the construction of that long tank rack. I didn't have time to read the whole thread but when I have time it will be first. I'm working on a fish room right now so I might have more questions down the line here.
How are you treating your water before it hits the tanks or are you treating each tank?
Are you planning to do a auto water change system in the future?

Thanks
Fish

[blainep]

Nice project I like the construction of that long tank rack. I didn't have time to read the whole thread but when I have time it will be first. I'm working on a fish room right now so I might have more questions down the line here.
How are you treating your water before it hits the tanks or are you treating each tank?
Are you planning to do a auto water change system in the future?

Thanks
Fish

I don't think I'll be installing a fully automatic water change system, mechanical things have a habit of breaking down, usually while you're 500 miles away on vacation. :eek:

The drain/fill system I have now works good, so I don't think I'll fix it.

[fish]

How are you treating your water before it hits your tanks?

[Melody]

I think a read of the entire thread would answer your questions. That way Blaine doesn't have to repeat himself and the thread doesn't get too cluttered with repeated information. Your question is answered on page 11.

[blainep]

With the arrival of a box of Gary's magic fish, some minor alterations were needed to get everyone into their new homes.

1263

:rolleyes:

Effectively about 1300 gallons now, but officially maxed out. I have no more tanks/heaters/filters left. :eek:

There is (in theory), room for 3 or 4 more tanks in various areas, but I think this is enough.

[Melody]

I like you Blaine, so I'm not going to mention how many times I've heard that from you. :DevilGrin:

My turn for magic fish now! I've been sitting on all of these understocked and empty tanks for far too long. :yes:

[blainep]

I like you Blaine, so I'm not going to mention how many times I've heard that from you. :DevilGrin:

My turn for magic fish now! I've been sitting on all of these understocked and empty tanks for far too long. :yes:

I know what you mean, it was almost painful to not bid on some of the fish that were up for auction.

Finally, I had to give in. :yes:

Really, I can't put up any more tanks, there aren't any more left !

[fishclubgirl]

FYI, I might know of someone with tanks for sale, lol!!!

[blainep]

FYI, I might know of someone with tanks for sale, lol!!!


Don't get me started, I can't afford to quit my job to look after fish all day !

[GaryofMontreal]

Yes but the glass and silicone elves never sleep...

[CACAdmin]

Yes but the glass and silicone elves never sleep...
... and the temptation of that next tank is always right around the corner. :wink:

[blainep]

Yes but the glass and silicone elves never sleep...

Is that how it happens........:Skeptic:

I think this is really it though, there comes a point where any more and they can't be maintained properly.

If the opportunity presents itself, I would like to get one more large tank for the spare room in the basement, more of a show tank than anything else.

[GaryofMontreal]

I find it strange how a large fishroom works. If you run one, then your maintenance regime isn't a problem. You've learned how, and probably spend not a lot more time on twenty tanks than a new aquarist might spend on one. A new aquarist wants huge crowds of fish in his/her little tank. An experienced aquarist wants crowds of lightly stocked tanks in his/her little house.
But every tank is interesting, and the idea of one more always pulls. I don't think it's exactly the same thing as collecting objects might be, because fish are appealing in their unpredictability. You put a china cup on a shelf and it acts like a china cup. Set up a fishtank, and who knows that the inhabitants will do? I think we end up as 'stimulation junkies'. Fishkeepers like to be surprised by the unpredictability of their hobby.
I don't know, Blaine. I'm at the point where I can fit one more tank in my room. Just one. Unless I build a new rack over by the freezer...

[tiga]

I have been adding one or two tanks every year for the last 6 years and my wife always says this is the last one.

[Malibu]

I only have 4 tanks (one being a 5 gal for fry) and I had to promise that would be it... granted we really actually don't have room for any more... well, maybe one more if I stacked 2 of them, but I don't think it would go over very well:no:

[Pamelajo]

I only have 4 tanks (one being a 5 gal for fry) and I had to promise that would be it... granted we really actually don't have room for any more... well, maybe one more if I stacked 2 of them, but I don't think it would go over very well:no:
:secret:You wait til they buy something or until they go away for a little while and then slip one in.


I usually wait til hubby is gone snowmobiling and sneak one in, but I have no more room. So now I want to replace some with bigger ones.:laugh: First though I have to convince him to build me a new stand to replace the old one before I put anything bigger on it.::D:

[fishclubgirl]

If I can fit 14 tanks into a one bedroom apartment, you have room for one more!! And yes, the laundry room racks are great for bettas. They are behind plexiglas, as my feline assistant has made attempts at them but it's nice and warm!!

[blainep]

Once again I find myself fighting the urge to build on to the fishroom. Even when I'm in the middle of a bathroom reno.

Wallace left a few tanks at my house to store for him while he moves. Silly fool even told me to feel free to use them if I wanted to. :laugh:

Must ..... Fight .... The ..... Urge ......

at least until the bathroom is done ! (or my wife will kick my butt) :yes:

[CACAdmin]

Blaine, I'll help give you incentive. If you so much as start any building project in the fishroom before the bathroom renos are done, I have a funny feeling the only thing you'll be building is a doghouse for you to reside in. :wink: :laugh:

[Pamelajo]

Forget building it I can ship you one that is not in use at the moment.::D:Did you want me to take a pic of your new home possibly?

[blainep]

Yes, the bathroom must take priority.
Besides, I might be able to use some of the leftovers from the reno for tank stands ! :yes:

[CACAdmin]

Yes, the bathroom must take priority.
Besides, I might be able to use some of the leftovers from the reno for tank stands ! :yes:

Good thinking!:thumbup:

[blainep]

Bathroom reno's are done ! (Finally)

Made a great score from work, two nearly four foot long metal shelving racks.

They were headed for the garbage, so I scooped them. Not sure why they were going to scrap, they're in great shape and super strong.

I put one together tonight and it looks like each rack would hold three 36 inch, 50 gallon tanks perfectly.
Just for fun, I did a little measuring, each rack would easily hold 12 ten gallon tanks and with a minor mod, 9 twenty gallon tanks as well.

I have no idea where I can put them, and I'm not sure I want 300 more gallons of water to maintain, but I couldn't resist bringing them home. :rolleyes:

Whatever I do with them, it won't be for a few days at least. I'm so tired right now I can barely focus on the screen to type.

[CACAdmin]

Bathroom reno's are done ! (I have no idea where I can put them, and I'm not sure I want 300 more gallons of water to maintain, but I couldn't resist bringing them home. :rolleyes:


:laugh: A sign of a truly addicted fishkeeper. :yes:

I'm certain you'll figure something out.

[Pamelajo]

A truly addicted fish keeper won't rest til they figure something out.:yes:

[blainep]

I guess with all the focus on my 'Dipping a toe' thread, you might be thinking the fishroom has fallen into disrepair and disrepute.

Not so !

I think I am going to make a few changes though.

Having the one rack of tanks in another room is a pain, so I'm going to do some shuffling around and bring all the fish into the fishroom over the next couple of weeks.
By making use of the second metal stand I brought home from work, I should be able to make it work.

If the opportunity presents itself, I want to change out some of the smaller tanks for larger ones as well, but I'll have to come across some cheap tanks first.


Not to worry, I'll be sure to photograph and post any changes I make.

[CACAdmin]

A truely addicted fishkeeper never rests, or so it seems. Having all the tanks in the same room would be nice. Hope you can make it work without too much expense. I guess we'll only start worrying about you when you go to the city to apply for permits to add an extension to the house. :laugh:

[fishkid]

wow blaine, your are an inspiraton. to take the time to keep everyone updated, and wanting to see more i thank you so much... i love the room its AMAZING.:laugh:

[fishkid]

i guess you could say im jealous. haha. and one day will build me a room,

[CACAdmin]

Blaine, when do we get our next virtual tour?

[blainep]

Blaine, when do we get our next virtual tour?

Once I have the 125 gallon out of the fishroom I'll polish things up and get a few new pictures up. :Smile:

[Dan_G_Calgary]

just looked at the first 18 pages.

wow.

I heart your fish room! Well done sir. Very well done.

[Dan_G_Calgary]

Dangit. all the picture links are broken. :(

I wanted to look through to see how to set things up.

[blainep]

Dangit. all the picture links are broken. :(

I wanted to look through to see how to set things up.


They're here somewhere Dan, I find them and post them again.

[Dan_G_Calgary]

ok. Thanks! going to start a seperate thread on this, instead of hijacking your old thread.