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Corbin
Feb 3rd 2007, 09:11 PM
Im against it, but this is from CNN and the spca says its okay..


click to watch (http://dynamic.cnn.com/apps/tp/video/offbeat/2007/02/02/brason.tattooed.fish.wgrz/video.ws.asx?NGUserID=aa5121c-2042-1166392335-4&adDEmas=R00%26hi%26comcast.net%2673%26usa%26504%26 18974%2639%2615%26S2%26M2%26)

if that link dont work you can go here to watch the video http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=44744

Fugu
Feb 3rd 2007, 09:42 PM
I hate people who think fish are an idiot pet.

A young chicken (or duck) will molt its feathers and look like a regular chicken or duck.

a fish with a tattoed heart on it is more susseptable to infection with all those inks and ****.

mykiss
Feb 3rd 2007, 11:29 PM
Yeah, I agree. Just let them be and enjoy them as is.

Witchlight
Feb 3rd 2007, 11:39 PM
Ya not something I agree with.

The problem is ppl dont seem to think its possible for a fish to have feelings or feel pain. Simple fact is unless it would want to do it on its own its probably not a good idea.

Melody
Feb 3rd 2007, 11:45 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if only fish could scream.

They tried to dye bunnies in Easter colors once - everyone freaked. It actually didn't hurt the bunny - they used safe dyes, protected their eyes, etc. It stressed them of course and I'm not condoning it, but it was a far nicer procedure than the fish go through.

Write some letters, preferrably via snail mail with your full name and signature. CC to anybody who has anything to do with animal rights and regulations. That's about all we can do other than refusing to buy them and boycotting stores that carry them.

CACAdmin
Feb 4th 2007, 12:13 AM
Anyone who has ever had a tattoo, although they may (or may not) like the end result knows it is not a pleasant experience. And, it's permanent...not to mention the potential for infection. Poor fish!:(

Witchlight
Feb 4th 2007, 06:37 AM
I dont know about that. I have 2 tats and did like getting them done....
Still I made the choice to do it (and want to do it again :yes: ) but Im not a fish and since Im not I couldn't imagine what a fish would feel like getting one. Just like I wouldnt force a person into it I wouldnt force an animal to either.

CACAdmin
Feb 4th 2007, 10:41 AM
I totally agree with you, Witchlight, that tattoos are people's choice and should not be forced on anyone or any animal either. I must say, getting a tattoo was more irritating than painful (for me... everybody has a different pain threshold). And you have to keep it from getting wet to allow it to heal & prevent infection.
:err: The poor fish (to my understanding) gets yanked out of the water (so is struggling to breath) and a large percentage of its body is tattooed. Then they are returned to the water exposing them to potential infection whilst the tattoo heals. (can't be a pleasant experience). And all for what? So that someone can make money on a fad? :(

Fugu
Feb 4th 2007, 01:28 PM
I have a few tatoos (both my designes) I have wanted a samurai on my back since I was eight:yes:


when I was a kid I would get a chicken egg and they would inject the dye into the egg,and then a green or blue or red (red diddnt work very well) chicken would pop out.Then in about a month the chicken would mold and lose the dyed down untill the adult feathers came in.100% harmless,I actually think its a great thing to do with the kids.

That guy ****** me off,he sells dyed and tatooed fish and there is no problem but when a dyed "normal" pet is totall B.S.

Soggybottom
Feb 6th 2007, 04:55 PM
Boo dyed fish, booooo!

Melody
Feb 6th 2007, 05:01 PM
That covers it nicely!

Fugu
Feb 6th 2007, 05:34 PM
That covers it nicely!
thank you,I work quickly:smile:

blainep
Feb 7th 2007, 10:15 PM
Boo dyed fish, booooo!

I agree completely with that statement.

Practical Fishkeeping had a good article about dyed fish.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/show_article.php?article_id=72

And, yes, fish feel pain.

http://www.hsus.org/animals_in_research/animals_in_research_news/scottish_research_team_concludes_that_fish_feel_pa in.html

Another link here about painted/dyed fish

http://www.deathbydyeing.org/moreau.htm

Melody
Feb 9th 2007, 03:57 PM
Retailer defends dyed fish (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1198) :no:

Melody
Feb 9th 2007, 04:19 PM
Well this about covers the Valentine sentiment that made the tatooed fish a commercial holiday must:

Retailer: "It's a way to make a statement to a boyfriend or girlfriend," said Dennis Jones, general manager at Greenwood Pets, "it's quite unique."

Animal Rights Activist: "Nothing says I love you like cruelty to animals," said Bruce Friedrich, spokesman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

As quoted from the article 'Tattooed fish turn up in Detroit (http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1199)', Practical Fishkeeping Mag.

I know of several local retailers who do not stock dyed fish. They realize that the income from the quick sales to kids and the uniformed who like the pretty colors, are greatly reduced by the amount of informed hobbyists who don't just frown at the tank of dyed/tatooed fish, but frown upon the store in general. Ethics or no ethics, that's bad business. Those stores get the bulk of my business. In fact, nothing would impress me more than a big sign that declared the store proudly dye/tattoo free.

The reaction of the uniformed when they find out that a store has sold them these fish without giving them the full story behind them, is not pretty. It is not good business to make a new hobbyist angry who could bring you a lifetime of profits.

As for the experienced, if you don't care enough about fish to keep that garbage out of your store, then you don't care about the other fish I might buy from you either, which means they're probably inferior. That's my view when I see these fish in stores.

Y'all will know its me if you hear someone ask loudly in a store why there's a tank full of garbage. I am not exactly shy about it, I call stores on it and I make sure that at least the shoppers who are there when I'm there, know what's up with those fish.

Its not necessary with the vast selection of fish out there and its bad business, period. The way I see it anyway.