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Melody
Jan 27th 2010, 04:22 AM
I finally upgraded IE thinking a problem with a site might be due to my reluctance to upgrade. I had heard of many issues with the later versions so I avoided it until now.

It has a nifty "compatibility view" button and being a 'wonder what this button does?' type, I tried it on a couple of websites. It did nothing but throw everything out of proportion and guess what? There's no 'undo', or none that I can find anyway.

Between that and Flash issues, I think I'll go with another one. What's your fave browser? Any particular reason? Any you've tried and hated?

Thanks!

Pamelajo
Jan 27th 2010, 05:45 AM
I use firefox, no specific reason.

mdfa.ca
Jan 27th 2010, 07:24 AM
Firefox, all the way! Faster than IE and, so far, cross fingers and fins, no security problems with it.

PPulcher
Jan 27th 2010, 07:28 AM
For years I used Opera. I loved the mouse gestures for navigating pages. But because IE is such a juggernaut and has it's own set of standards that are not 'official' it can be tough to be on the outside. I use and like Safari on my Mac.

Melody
Jan 27th 2010, 04:39 PM
My Son loves Firefox, so I'm leaning towards that since he's familiar with it. I don't particularly want to change my habits, but IE likes to shuffle everything around once in awhile to make it look like they did something in upgrades, so I guess that shouldn't bother me.

Dandee
Jan 27th 2010, 06:52 PM
All I will use is firefox. I have used different ones and always came back to firefox.

GaryofMontreal
Jan 28th 2010, 03:27 AM
I like firefox - it's easy to use and if you avoid add-ons with the download/set-up, relatively uncluttered. I find the recent Microsoft products increasingly cluttered and annoying - they seem to have confused efficient with busy.
I may be going to open office on my main computer. The kids use it and like it, and my most recent bought copy of Word is very inconveniently cluttered. I've used versions of that program for 15 years, but the change for change's sake view of innovation has made the program less and less attractive.
I like programs that let me get the job done without all the bells and whistles. Firefox qualifies for that.

Melody
Jan 28th 2010, 05:32 AM
I like to keep my skills up in MS Office because that's what most businesses use. I have used and liked Open Office too though.

Firefox appears to be very popular.

I wonder if the giant Microsoft has looked down long enough to notice these other programs are catching up? They'd be wise to do so. They didn't worry about it when I worked for them, but maybe that's changed.

PPulcher
Jan 28th 2010, 05:37 AM
WRT to Open Office, it does all the basics very well. I'm using it for Mac & Linux. There are some compatibility issues with MS Office from time to time if you need to work between worlds. I found it tough to use it at first because of all the work habits I've developed with Office.

OldMan
Feb 5th 2010, 05:56 PM
I use Firefox as my main browser. When I want to use the auto fill function of my Norton utility, I need to use IE because it doesn't recognize Firefox and won't fill in my passwords for me. I find that the auto fill feature of Firefox doesn't work quite as well as that Norton utility does on IE.

T Dawg
Feb 11th 2010, 10:13 PM
I finally upgraded IE thinking a problem with a site might be due to my reluctance to upgrade. I had heard of many issues with the later versions so I avoided it until now.

It has a nifty "compatibility view" button and being a 'wonder what this button does?' type, I tried it on a couple of websites. It did nothing but throw everything out of proportion and guess what? There's no 'undo', or none that I can find anyway.

Between that and Flash issues, I think I'll go with another one. What's your fave browser? Any particular reason? Any you've tried and hated?

Thanks!

Solving your issue should be simple. Open the “Tools” menu and select “Compatibility view settings”. Remove the sites as needed.

I use IE 8 for 90% of my browsing. Other 8% Firefox, and 2% Chrome. As long as you keep them up to date with patches the negligible differences between the browsers are mostly geek battle fodder, but indistinguishable to the non-basement bound(and the Enterprise D could destroy a squadron of Tie Fighters). For the cost feel free to try them all, if that is how you want to spend your time.

Melody
Feb 12th 2010, 12:21 AM
That would be the logical solution, only the list comes up empty even though I know I tried it here and on my site, both of which still look warped. Yup, cleared the cache & yadda yadda yadda. Gotta love Microsoft!

I may try Chrome actually, they're integrating their new 'Buzz' toy into it I believe. Buzz will probably make Twitter go into tech nowhere land. It sounds like they've put a lot of thought into the concept and addressed some key issues for marketers. Anything that makes social media marketing more efficient has my vote. The only thing I don't like about Google is they've been slapped for their use of personal information several times - they especially love to track, but they were ordered to smarten up in that department. Yahoo is bad for that too.

Namor
Feb 12th 2010, 01:04 AM
(and the Enterprise D could destroy a squadron of Tie Fighters).

:laugh: :yes:

I always thought a Cylon Raider would be the most fun to fly, but whoever decided to put louvers on the windshield wasn't thinking clearly.:wink:

I dunno... the whole "online" world still kinda freaks me out at times, and a brief I read on the back page of a newspaper today only confirms how terrible it can be. Apparently Facebook had to remove some pages recently, as convicts were taunting their victims from prison. I felt sick when I read this, and a certain Bruce Cockburn tune came to mind.

Sorry, rant over.

As far as browsers go, I flipflop between Safari and Firefox.

T Dawg
Feb 13th 2010, 01:24 AM
Yup, cleared the cache & yadda yadda yadda.
There is a definitive test to see which of two classes of problems it is, but it sounds like you should another browser already and start playing.

Melody
Feb 13th 2010, 11:21 AM
It's difficult to surprise me with trouble-shooting Microsoft - I used to work for them. I'd say it's a bug that they'll iron out eventually, but I haven't put much effort into diagnostics.

I've always used IE but their arrogance is costing them. They refuse to address compatibility issues with outside applications, etc., unless a court orders them to. They're not focused on the user, they're focused on Microsoft. They feel they're the king and there's no way they'll be knocked off the mountain so they don't worry about customer service.

In other words, they stopped earning my loyalty so they can bite me :laugh: .

GaryofMontreal
Feb 13th 2010, 02:52 PM
Yeah, the corporate arrogance really does make you want to go elsewhere. I'm a lazy computer user - it's a tool and I'm not inclined to modify it. I had a computer before Windows, and I've been along for the ride ever since.
Vista got to me as while it really isn't the worst thing they could have done, they made it standard issue on the computer I bought before they had finished it, and left me with a series of time consuming patches that seemed to arrive and turn off my computer when I was busiest.
Apple seems to play similar games with music and phones at least, so I won't pay the extra for their computers.
It's quite annoying my ineffectual little protest is using any browser but IE, and I'm happy with the results. I found the firefox "cool iris" plug in was a useless pain in the butt, but it is an option.

T Dawg
Feb 13th 2010, 07:04 PM
It's difficult to surprise me with trouble-shooting Microsoft - I used to work for them.
I guess my question is it IE8 or you and IE8? MS seems just fine at fixing things when they effect a large part of the user base and are not a feature.

If logging in as a different user does not resolve your IE issues you have a short list of fixes, most pointing to rather large issues with your OS install.

OldMan
Feb 13th 2010, 07:10 PM
I have been using Firefox for some time now with almost no problems. The one thing that I don't like is that one of my utilities doesn't work well with it. That is a password autofill prgram that I got from Symantec. It works great with IE but ignores Firefox. Fortunately Firefox itself provides the ability to autofill passwords without the extra software that Symantec sold me.

T Dawg
Feb 13th 2010, 07:20 PM
I've always used IE but their arrogance is costing them. They refuse to address compatibility issues with outside applications, etc., unless a court orders them to. They're not focused on the user, they're focused on Microsoft. They feel they're the king and there's no way they'll be knocked off the mountain so they don't worry about customer service.

In other words, they stopped earning my loyalty so they can bite me :laugh: .


I cannot agree with most of what you are saying. I have deal with Apple. Limited user support, out right lying and denial of issues occasionally followed by magic fixes out of nowhere.

MS offers me free Technet events, various training, and countless online resources. Any time I have called phone support the issue has been resolved (one day I'll be healed enough to retell the 18 hour server support call, but all the issues were resolved and I was looking at weeks of work otherwise) I have also seen my feedback directly affect three MS products (though based on the current ads I feel goofy mentioning that).

I have never worked for MS, I’m not even an MCP. I have been disappointed by them and by their products at times, but a single company that has not also does not come to mind.

Much like the Olymic protests I question people’s expectations, and the target of their anger.

T Dawg
Feb 13th 2010, 07:30 PM
Vista got to me as while it really isn't the worst thing they could have done, they made it standard issue on the computer I bought before they had finished it, and left me with a series of time consuming patches that seemed to arrive and turn off my computer when I was busiest.
How exactly did they pull that off?

The maker of your computer made the choice of OS to include, not MS. To this day you can buy brand new PCs with XP, and while MS may try to push manufactures to offer the current product manufactures are not only agreeing that the OS is stable, but offing to themselves pay all of the OS support costs when sold with their hardware.

I'm all for hating MS, but by your logic it would seem no software product is ever finished.

OldMan
Feb 13th 2010, 07:57 PM
I must sort of agree with T Dawg on this. I develop applications, not software, at work and find that it truly never is done. There is always someone who wants new bells and whistles about the time the existing build is getting nice and stable. I build using the MS Access program and find it will give me a nice song and dance once I get the bugs out of an application of it but there is always a request for one more feature in my already big databases.

Melody
Feb 13th 2010, 11:00 PM
Everyone prefers what they prefer. No need to get excited about it, I have better things to get worked up about...lol. I'm not looking to debate such nonsense, that's just silly. I'd love to hear what people like and why they like it. Thanks for the input!